Justin and Jason discuss the new server and router for running Catalyst sessions locally, how to keep the databases in sync and plans for the Catalyst software, how a couple of bug fixes have dramatically improved Pluggio's stability and performance and the possibility of growing or selling it, the Chromebook donated to Catalyst by Ben Rhodes, the AnyFu expert recruiting process, the sleuthing of Jason's secret project and how he's attempting to focus his efforts, Jason's awesome on-demand sys admin, how he's outsourced Colby's baseball instruction and why he's reading Ender's Game to him, the process of transitioning to a new computer and thoughts on saving versus deleting old code, advice on learning how to program and the psychological toll of trading, Justin's advice on building a SaaS app, more on why entrepreneurs should not select cutting edge technologies when outsourcing product development, and finally the foot-in-the-door technique, the door-in-the-face-technique and the foot-in-the-face-technique.

Justin and Jason discuss Udi's stay in Pasadena and his working relationship with Justin, how to manage sessions between a Javascript client and a RESTful API, solving the Catalyst network problems and why Jason thinks Javascript isn't the easiest language for kids to learn, thoughts on the Code.org video, how Pluggio was hacked, the evolution of the Catalyst stack and how Jason uses Node.js in combination with LAMP, the tradeoffs of building a startup on cutting edge technologies, the progress being made on AnyFu, the results of the Uber nearest cabs challenge, Jason's thoughts on the Upverter hackathon, the SHIELD Act and how patent trolls are going after popular podcasters, Justin's TV recommendations and why Jason listens to podcasts about the The Walking Dead, and Udi's concluding thoughts on America.

Justin and Jason discuss the Uber nearest drivers challenge, specifically a clarification on Jason's "reinvention" of the quad tree algorithm as well as a description of a new and improved version, Udi's arrival and participation in a Catalyst session, the Catalyst text-adventure project, future plans for the Catalyst IDE and the idea of making Catalyst an online offering, the NYT's Tesla test drive controversy, how Uber was ranked as one of Forbes most innovative companies of the year and Uber's fight against regulatory barriers, Jason's recent obsession with The Walking Dead and why Justin prefers teen dramas, how Udi's family escaped racial persecution in Turkmenistan, maintaining an old version of a software project while moving forward with a new version, securely storing passwords, a list of some favorite podcasts, and what it's like for Udi to be trapped inside of a TechZing episode.

Jason speaks with show favorite, Gabriel Weinberg, about how he's managed the growth of DuckDuckGo from 1,000 searches per month to 50 million.

Justin and Jason discuss Jason's new iPad keyboard from Logitech and the Zag iPad keyboard, Justin's past life in Ireland and England, his first computer and how he became a musician, the pre-history of the Khan Academy, the crazy story of the Virtual Irish Pub and how Justin met his wife, Justin's idea for creating videos for Catalyst, PostalPix's search for a CTO, a guy in Shenzen who's printing circuit boards, a DIY Bioprinter, the future of 3D printing and how automation is wiping out middle class jobs, the future of self-driving cars, the continual rise of TSLA, what it was like to work with Steve Jobs, his love for product development and his obsession with secrecy, the conclusion of Fringe (don't worry - no spoilers) and Jason's favorite quote of the series, Jason's lunch with the director of STEM education for the Pasadena Education Foundation, the power of math and science and how to sell it to kids, the idea for creating a Catalyst hackathon and getting the Upverter guys involved, an update on the outsourced AnyFu recruiting effort, Jason's success outsourcing sys admin work on Freelancer.com, the What Would Rob Walling Do t-shirt, how Jason has been getting a lot of email asking him for advice about high-frequency trading, making the transition from doing project work to getting paid for advice, and the story of how Justin recently became a CTO.

Jason speaks with Zak Homouth, one of the three founders of Upverter, a web-based solution for designing, simulating and manufacturing circuit boards.

Justin and Jason talk about what's happening with AnyFu, why Jason does a lot of stuff and how he gets it done, why Jason has soured on partnerships, how the Gmail interface kind of sucks, why Justin link spammed Jason, AdoptTogether - the Kickstarter for adoption, the Catalyst challenge / point system, methods of running Node.js in conjunction with Apache and PHP, managing long running Node.js processes using Upstart and Monit, the tradeoffs of different Linux distributions, some upcoming interviews, the latest underwhelming TL;DR service, Jason Calacanis' Launch Ticker, the monitoring / validation service that Jason wrote for the Uber dispatching system, considerations when exercising startup options, why Jason wants the new Logitech Ultrathin iPad cover / keyboard, the research suggesting that stating your goals publicly will increase your likelihood of achieving them, and the controversy surrounding Derek Sivers' claims on subject.

Justin and Jason discuss Justin's important meeting in Chicago, why SQL is agile, how FriendFeed used MySQL to store schema-less data and when normalized data will hurt you, Justin's experience with Uber, how Jason works with the Uber engineering team as an off-site contractor and how they scaled the Node.js-based dispatching system, Gabriel Weinberg's thoughts on orders of magnitude, how Justin is working with Udi on Digedu and why they chose the new PHP framework Laravel, why Jason wrote a RESTful API for Catalyst in PHP and why he thinks building web apps in Node.js is usually more trouble than it's worth, the upcoming Catalyst point system, the possibility of creating a WordPress pluggin for Pluggio, how Jason bought an Arduino at the local Radio Shack and while there heard about a local hardware super hacker who built a long distance surveillance microphone, the difference between Raspberry Pi and Arduino, how a judge dismissed a dealers' lawsuit against Tesla's retail stores, why Jason thinks Hacker News needs a prerequisite reading list, why Justin is worried that we're all getting stuck in our own social media silos, why you should pay attention to power law distributions and why you should look for things you can scale.